{"id":3008,"date":"2013-02-04T08:06:07","date_gmt":"2013-02-04T14:06:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/?p=3008"},"modified":"2013-02-03T21:24:47","modified_gmt":"2013-02-04T03:24:47","slug":"quicken-2013-budget-problems","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/2013\/02\/quicken-2013-budget-problems\/","title":{"rendered":"Quicken 2013: Budgeting Woes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>It was mid-January when I pushed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/reviews\/quicken\/2010\/\">Quicken Deluxe 2010<\/a> aside, and upgraded to Quicken Deluxe 2013.  Thirty or forty minutes in, and I already had a bad feeling that <b>this<\/b> particular upgrade wasn&#8217;t going to be one that made me smile.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been a devout Quicken user since the 1990s, with upgrades done typically every two or three years. It was Quicken Deluxe 2010&#8217;s &#8220;In \/ Out \/ What&#8217;s Left&#8221; feature &#8230;<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/graphics\/quicken-in-out.gif\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/graphics\/quicken-in-out-r.gif\" title=\"In \/ Out \/ What's Left\" alt=\"In \/ Out \/ What's Left\"><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>&#8230; which finally allowed me to break away entirely from keeping separate budgets in Excel. I couldn&#8217;t tell whether this tool was still around in Quicken Deluxe 2013, as the packaging didn&#8217;t show it, but I went ahead and took the leap. Hope and prayer, and all that.<\/p>\n<h3>&#8220;In \/ Out \/ What&#8217;s Left&#8221; Is Still There<\/h3>\n<p>Yes, the &#8220;In\/Out\/What&#8217;s Left&#8221; chart is still in Quicken 2013 Deluxe, but it doesn&#8217;t show by default (as it did in 2010). Plus it&#8217;s pretty well hidden. It took me several weeks of sorta\/kinda searching to figure this out. I will say that, until I found the darn thing, I was a sad, sad man whenever it came time to fire up Quicken and punch in some transactions.<\/p>\n<p>To get the &#8220;In\/Out\/What&#8217;s Left&#8221; view to appear on your Home desktop:<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"excel-code\">HOME tab &rarr; Home button &rarr; Customize button &rarr; in &#8220;Available Items&#8221; window, scroll down to Planning section &rarr; select &#8220;In\/Out\/What&#8217;s Left&#8221; &rarr; click ADD.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>See? Just like that, I had my beloved &#8220;What&#8217;s Left&#8221; cash-flow tool back, and all was right with the world.<\/p>\n<p>Kind of.<\/p>\n<h3>Quicken&#8217;s Budgeting Tool Gets Another Look<\/h3>\n<p>I&#8217;ve stated in the past that Quicken&#8217;s budgeting features are miserable. Up to this point, if readers ever emailed me, asking for my opinions on budgeting tools, I&#8217;d inevitably point them toward Excel (&#8220;Make your own budgeting spreadsheet, or use <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/excel.html\">one of mine<\/a>&#8220;) or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/reviews\/ynab4\/\">YNAB<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It appears that Intuit really tried to revamp their budgeting tools in Deluxe 2013, which was a fine idea. The fact that I can see a year&#8217;s worth of spending and budgets at once is quite lovely:<\/p>\n<p><center><a href=\"https:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/graphics\/quicken-budget-year.gif\" target=\"_blank\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/graphics\/quicken-budget-year-r.gif\" title=\"Quicken's Budget\" alt=\"Quicken's Budget\"><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>And by &#8220;lovely,&#8221; I mean it&#8217;s a good thing to see an annual budget breakdown once you&#8217;ve spent hours upon hours getting Quicken tweaked to show things correctly. Because if you don&#8217;t, you&#8217;ll find yourself and your budget in some time-warp, federal-government &#8220;minus equals plus and red means overspending and red is good&#8221; bizzaro money world.<\/p>\n<p>So yes, I still assert that YNAB&#8217;s budget setups make Quicken&#8217;s look, sound, and smell like utter crap. But in this arena, any progress (for Intuit) is good progress.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly, even with the revamp, I still can&#8217;t say much for Quicken&#8217;s budgeting prowess overall.<\/p>\n<h3>Clunky, Clunky, Clunky<\/h3>\n<p>Much like a pissed-off porcupine, Quicken&#8217;s budget is hard to handle. Selecting categories to include in your budget is a serious time-sink, for one thing. <\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s worth noting here that Quicken&#8217;s budget can and will start right from Penny One of your previously set up paychecks. So if you&#8217;re one of those dorks who, like me, tracks your income from its pretax levels, all the way down through taxes, deductions, and everything else, you&#8217;re going to have a jolly ol&#8217; time slogging through this as it relates to your budget(s).<\/p>\n<p>How do I know? Because I spent weeks kludging my way to what I already knew was my baseline &#8220;available to budget&#8221; amount, all because Quicken was applying my 401k employer-match amounts to the expense side of the budgeting ledger (because I want transfers to my 401k to count as a budgeting outflow) &#8230; but it wouldn&#8217;t count the initial employer-match &#8220;income&#8221; on the income side of things. Thus my &#8220;Remaining to Budget&#8221; amount appeared smaller than it really was. And figuring out <b>why<\/b> it refused to count the income was perfectly maddening.<\/p>\n<p>Turns out that, to rectify this, I had to figure out how Quicken was categorizing the employer-match money behind the scenes &#8212; and &#8220;_401 Employer Contrib&#8221; is the correct answer, kids. Then, for this category to even be made available in your budget, you have to checkmark &#8220;Show hidden categories&#8221; at the very bottom of the &#8220;Select Categories to Budget&#8221; form. <\/p>\n<p><center><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.mdmproofing.com\/iym\/weblog\/graphics\/quicken-401-contrib.gif\" title=\"Finding the category...\" alt=\"Finding the category...\"><\/a><\/center><\/p>\n<p>And of course, because it would make NO SENSE WHATSOEVER to place &#8220;_401 Employer Contrib&#8221; in the &#8220;Personal Income&#8221; category group, you have to spend time scrolling through roughly 4,267,184 other categories in the &#8220;All Categories&#8221; group to find &#8220;_401 Employer Contrib&#8221; way down near the bottom of the list. <\/p>\n<p>Egads.<\/p>\n<p>Well, at least now, after several weeks, I&#8217;ve got Quicken&#8217;s budget set up to at least show me good &#8220;actual&#8221; spending numbers. I haven&#8217;t even approached the &#8220;budget&#8221; inputs yet. Should I desire to plan our income and spending months in advance, I think Quicken can make it happen.  The question is: What Quicken budget idiosyncrasies have I not yet discovered? You just know there&#8217;ll be more.<\/p>\n<p>Only time will tell.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It was mid-January when I pushed Quicken Deluxe 2010 aside, and upgraded to Quicken Deluxe 2013. Thirty or forty minutes in, and I already had a bad feeling that this particular upgrade wasn&#8217;t going to be one that made me smile. 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